Am I Ready?

Newbie Joined: Jul 20, 2005 Posts: 5

Hello to you all

I have for the past XX years ran the security in-house for a large company in the UK, however as the trends set in most large corporations etc now contract out a lot of its services, my FORMER company has all but contracted out everybody with the exception of sales and manufacturing to a large american firm. We all still have our jobs though.
The firm I am working for now has plenty of experience in providing services for any dept except security(doh)
They have now woken up and realised that they should try and expand with the security side of the job with their clients.
I have been asked to get myself qualified to be able to train officers to standards so they can apply for their licenses.
I have received all the info from SITO and my company are set to pay them.
Training & development learning programme £1500
Conflict management trainers programme £845
We have been in touch with City and Guilds to become accredited £1000(thats a dam rip off aswell)
and there are a few other small costs afterwards.
I have been assured that the above is all I really need to be able to become qualified to teach officers to the required level for SIA licensing.
Before I put these cheques in the post, is there anything else I need that they have kept back or are there any suprises for me along the way.
Not sure whether the job has done this to me over the years but i always feel uneasy trusting these people who want money?????
Shocked

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:02 pm

Hello Slim and welcome.

You have correctly idetentified the essentials to begin your journey towards becoming a trainer.

The SITO Training & development learning programme (just be sure that this is the to the City & Guilds 7302 standard) I'm fairly sure it is but it's better to be sure.

You will also require the Conflict management trainers programme (again, this must be to City & Guilds Level 3)

Also ensure you are approved by SITO to deliver all the elements you wish to teach: ie, Stats & Pats, Retail, Door Supervisors, Educational - Whichever are relevant to your company.

You do NOT need to be City & Guilds approved.
There are several other awarding bodies you may approach to provide your cerification. Edexcel and the NOCN.

The NOCN do not charge for accreditation like the C&G.

Incidentally, the examination procedure via the C&G is done by "online" testing. This can be somewhat prohibitive unless you have a purpose built training facility with numerous computer terminals.
To the best of my knowledge, it it only the D.Sups exam that is still paper based with the C&G.

With the NOCN, the examination process is "paper based".

One last point - I notice from your earlier posting that you refer to the NVQ Level 2.
An NVQ is only achieved via an ongoing assessment process over a period of time by a qualified and approved NVQ assessor.

This is NOT necessary for SIA licensing purposes.
The NVQ Level 2 - Providing Security Services is the next step up the ladder for those in the industry wishing to gain a higher qualification.

All that is needed for licensing purposes is a Level 2 Vocational Award. This is NOT an NVQ but perfectly acceptable to meet the SIA requirements.

For example, lets look at the C&G awards:

National Certificate for Security Officers - Vocational Award Level 2
This is a new level 2 vocational qualification specially designed to support the SIA’s Licence to Practise for Security Officers. The aim’s of this two unit qualification is to develop the learner’s knowledge so that they can assess their work environment and reduce the risk to people, property and premises, by providing effective security and deal with incidents and conflict in accordance with agreed procedures.

Certificate in Knowledge of the Professional Security Officer - Vocational Award Level 2
This vocational qualification has been designed to be used within a structured company training and qualifications plan and leads to the SITO/City and Guilds examination - the Level 2 Certificate of Knowledge for the Professional Retail Security Officer.

Providing Security Services - NVQ Level 2
This award is intended to identify those area that are common to all candidates employed in the sector, as well as being flexible in identifying those more specific roles within the industry. The qualification covers areas such as screening and searching processes to detecting banned or dangerous items, which is significant at a time when most countries are seeking to combat terrorism.

Hope this helps a little.
Feel free to mail me if i can be of further assistance.

Regards to all,

Mike.

Newbie Joined: Jul 20, 2005 Posts: 5

Thanks for that info Corsec,

I was at a security summit over in Grantham last week and one of the speakers at an SIA workshop informed us that the SIA would not allow any companies no grace come March 2006 for people waiting for there license to be returned (except Approved contractor Scheme ). Even though they admit they cannot handle the amount of applications they are receiving.
Do you think I am leaving this a bit late to get qualified to train the the guys for their licenses as the courses i will be doing will not finnish until the end of this year. I have still then got to get creditation from NOCN.
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