Put Upon?

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:53 pm

This is mainly aimed at the contract security market (in-house please respond as well!)

Do you feel that because you are an “outsider” you are asked/tolled to do jobs/tasks that have no security classification whatsoever, Shocked

though you do them because it’s what the client wants!! Confused

Since I’ve moved back into the contract sector I can’t believe the amount of tasks that are completely unrelated to the role of the security officer – has any one got a description that I could hand in to my well known employer, just to remind them of just what I’m here to do. Wink

Newbie Joined: Jul 01, 2003 Posts: 6

Oh yes,it seems that ones employers feel that anything the client wants the client gets, for a price naturally as they are charged for it , however the employer forgets to pass any moneys on to the staff doing the extra work.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:11 am

Not having worked in Contract Security for a number of years it is amusing to see that things have not changed much. The only way around this I founf was to build up a personal relationship with the client and in turn get treated as a human being. Didn't always work but made things easier a lot of the time.

Check the bottom of the contract. I bet there is that line "to do anything as directed by the company" or something to that effect. What a get out clause for them. Works every time.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:05 pm

I had the above slotted into my in-house contract.

Can anyone define ad-hock for me? Confused

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:33 pm

Aint that what you ask a drunk german "You 'ad hock mate?" Laughing

Sorry counldn't resist it. If memory serves it's a transfer of latin (i think) meaning specially or for a particular purpose.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:28 pm

No doubt I will now get some sarcastic comment from Leon about this Wink

but...
Ad-hoc
Pronounced suprisingly enough as 'ad 'hak'

Definition;
Contrived purely for the purpose in hand rather than planned carefully in advance. E.g. "We didn't know what to do about the sausage rolls, so we set up an ad-hoc committee.

Geeza is quite right in his comment that the phrase is derived from the Latin Ad-Hoc - meaning: "For a particular purpose (improvised, made up in an instant)".

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:11 am

Thanks for the lesson in Latin. Cool

Can you please translate “Don’t let the b**t**ds grind you down”
Wink

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:47 am

Your sentence comes froma song called Ace of Spades by an excellent band called Motorhead hehehe.

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:26 pm

I must say that I didn’t have you down as a fan of heavy metal!! Shocked

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:58 pm

Oh yes, a big fan of metal and hard rock.
In my youth all I would listen to would be Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, AC DC, Saxon, Deep Purple - I'm sure you get the picture. Laughing

Though my musical tastes have expanded somewhat. I was listening to Dido and some other well known musicians well before she became known in the UK.
If you ever do any MP3 downloading, you should check out Creed (formally Creedence Clearwater Revival) my favourite is Arms Wide Open, Matchbox 20 ('Bent' or, 'If Your Gone').
If anyone is a fan of controvesial rap, you should check out a band called Kilo Twisted Evil

Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:56 pm

Quote:

Can you please translate “Don’t let the b**t**ds grind you down”

"Nil illegitmus carborundum"

(Not really) Laughing

Keep Safe,

Mike

Newbie Joined: Nov 11, 2003 Posts: 3 Location: Dorset

I agree with you totaly Dave, I work for one of the Banks and the amount of jobs that have nothing to do with security that have been creeping in
over the last few years, Its just aswell i do not have to wear a hat
as i think i would be up to 5 by now and hey that would look stupid.

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:55 pm

I agree with leonshome

I to work for one of the banks via a security contractor
and he is right the amount of jobs you are asked to do that have nothing to do with security are astounding, something then happens in the security role and you are asked why wereyou not there/why did you not do something about it, and when you tell them you were doing a non security task you get bollocked even if your manager /supervisor has given you this jobto do its a no win situation
any comments
Bigyin Evil or Very Mad

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:08 pm

Its just a sad fact of the poor down trodden security officers lot, if the client wants a task doing then that’s fine, do it, anything to keep the client happy – but god help you if anything happens whilst your doing the clients favour.
Best practice would be - ask for the instruction to be written down, stating the time for the task to be completed, what the task entails etc, I would always ask for a “disclaimer” for any mishap that could arise.
If the task is to be regular occurrences then get it in your assignment instructions, it could be chargeable!

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:30 pm

Not wishing to sound too cynical Dave, but even if it is chargable. What are the chances of us poor sods doing the work actually seeing the increase?

I do lots of extra bits here, as long as myself and the client feel I can safely and without jepordising my main task, and I usually add these to a list of points that go in before any wage negotiation. That way the client remembers when their sat round talking percentages, and it makes our percentage that bit higher!